The chess champion, who was first beaten by computer in 1997, was invited to debate the consequences of technology on democracy, facing German MEP Svenja Hahn during the Tocqueville conversation.
Yet he is in one of the best positions to learn that machines are now replacing humans in all disciplines where they compete against each other. Yet the Russian chess champion is not displeased: he now defends artificial intelligence, having worked for many years on the development of the first prototypes of virtual chess players, when he was the first great chess player defeated in 1997 by the Deep Blue supercomputer.
The guest of the Tocqueville Conversation, Garry Kasparov, had the opportunity to explain this in detail to MEP Svenja Hahn, an expert in the European Parliament on the issues of regulation of artificial intelligence and new information technologies. Both were questioned by the journalist Figaro Laure Mandeville on the risks that technological progress represents for democracy. “Artificial intelligence is everywhere“First clarified to Svenja Hahn, reminding the audience at the Tocqueville Foundation and visitors to the Figaro site that this is a technical approach”Choose the music you already listen to, or the people you meet on online dating apps».
An omnipresence that the chess champion does not recognize, however, makes him worry unnecessarily about the future of humanity, which is the only one, strictly speaking, “wisdom», he clarified. “Deep Blue, the computer that beat me at chess was not smart. And besides, talking about artificial intelligence is not entirely fair. Of course, and I know something about it, the machine now wins all the games it has to offer: chess, a game of Go, even poker, which is reputed to have a great deal of psychology. . But the machine can learn and conquer only in a closed system. We don’t have a shadow of evidence that it will one day know how to transfer information from one closed system to another, but precisely the sensitive world we operate in is the opposite of a closed system.»
Following a question asked by Laure Mandeville, acknowledging that technology placed in the hands of an ill-intentioned political system could bolster the power of states’ control over the population, Garry Kasparov instead insists on advising, It offers individuals an escape from this control. “States are strong for technology, but individuals also find a place of freedom there: technology gives these conflicts a global impact, regardless of what is happening in Hong Kong, or in other countries where significant independence movements have emerged.“The struggle of the free world against dictatorship has existed for a long time, long before the appearance of artificial intelligence, he said, but according to him”Technology tips the scales in favor of a free world».
without erasingapprehension“It’s stimulating, Garry Kasparov insists on separating real-world technology from it”hollywood fantasies“Unrelated, according to him, is what artificial intelligence will be tomorrow. And to describe in detail, present and future changes due to the transfer of the world into a universe of connected objects and artificial intelligence. Schumpeterien, chess champion his time old The world does not waste away crying over it, on the contrary praising the creation of jobs and the new economic opportunities that allow this change and the emergence of this new paradigm.
In his discussion with MP Svenja Hahn, he nevertheless agreed on the need for regulation of technologies and artificial intelligence, reviewing several major projects awaiting countries and international organizations in this vast political arena. “The human factor is the most important of all» They concluded together, while Laure Mandeville thanked the two speakers, recalling the necessity, according to Tocqueville, to rely on civil society to guarantee respect for democracy despite the will of state power.
The journalist’s objection to the idea that the technological paradigm outlines a new world, disjointed and dehumanized, in which interactions with our fellow humans will be partly replaced by machines, this time has remained unanswered. “it’s really a dilemmaGarry Kasparov was satisfied to answer.